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It's funny how a bit of guilt and shame can do wonders when you want to modify someone's behaviour - ie, make them into an honest, nice, polite, well mannered person.

It's not funny that so many soft headed twits in Education, Justice etc throw up their hands in horror at tht notion - "Can't shame people! That's terrible! It might make them feel bad!"

So we end up with the kind of atrocious public behavior that you write about so often.

My brother in law is a bit of a mad mick - he's currently doing a two year teaching stint at a mission in PNG. He gets about $100 a month in salary. I think you'll find that once most of the pilgrims paid their air fare, they didn't have two brass razoo's to rub together.

"It's funny how a bit of guilt and shame can do wonders when you want to modify someone's behaviour - ie, make them into an honest, nice, polite, well mannered person."

BB, to turn young people into honest, nice, polite, well mannered humans is the job of a parent, who will most likely lead by example.
To even think for one moment that you need religious institutions involved in order to bring that behaviour to fruit, is foolish.
Guilt, fire and brimstone may have worked in the middle ages, most Christians and spiritual people revolt against such measures today. And rightfully so.

Rainer with a Catholic husband I can tell you that guilt and shame still feature heavily in Catholic households and upbringing.
We don't have kids yet, but I'm hoping our home will be devoid of such tactics as its frequently the mother utilising such methods. (and I'm an athiest)

I encountered a very angry cabbie on Friday night - bitter with the pilgrims, bitter with the world. It was only about 10.00 and he hadn't had a fare in 4 days, so instead of taking me home to the Cross (from the city) he decided to take me half way and demand I get out because he wanted to get out of the city.

Luckily there were about 20,000 free cabs around.

Talk about cutting off your nose to spite your face! By the time he battled with Friday night traffic and got a tip, it would've been a $25 fare. Is it just me or is $25 better than nothing?

Why is everyone so surprised about pilgrims not catching cabs etc? Thats what young travelers do! Its what I do every time I travel to europe.

I must disagree about the pilgrims not spending money though - I helped look after a group of about 70 from 6 different countries. Sure they chose floors over hotels, supermarkets over restaurants, walked rather than pay for cabs, took advantage of cheap trains and buses and didnt shop at expensive stores - However they have been spending tourist dollars in Sydney like theres no tomorrow - sydney aquarium, Imax, featherdale wildlife park, bridgeclimb, trips to manly, centrepoint tower, blue mountains, olympic park - you name it theyve been to it AND bought souvenirs. And to add to it they have all done additional trips before and after WYD such as week long trips through tassie, some have done a 2 month trip through central australia, while others are currently exploring brisbane, fraser island and cairns.

Look at the big picture and you'll realise how much money they really have brought in and how much extra tourism their positive experiences will bring in the future, on top of the good vibes they gace sydney for a week.

Too much negativity!

I took a taxi home one day last week and asked the friendly driver if he'd had many pilgrims. As he pointed out to me the pilgrims in the bible didnt have the option of hoping in a cab when their feet got a little tired.

As a non-believer I was happy to see so many people having a good time but cant help feel bitter about the public money spent on this. For our state government to claim it couldnt afford to partake in Kev's federal computers in schools program yet fund this is disgusting. Estimates of the cost of extending the light rail further into the inner west are less than estimates I've seen for the public cost of WYD. The governemnts job is to do the greatest good for the greatest number and they have failed miserably.

Free public transport with that pilgrim passport.

In these times, it isn't "guilt and shame" that has brought so many international and interstate pilgrims to Sydney (and to the Catholic faith), but Truth. Many discerning youth have "seen the light", that what this world has to offer will not satisfy them, and they have found something worth much more than material wealth, trivial pursuits & glory.

The pilgrims may not have spent $ in the expected places, but money is being spent nonetheless. Our prayer group has spent more money (tens of thousands of $) than in the past 10 years combined to host a WYD related event. I am sure other communities and churches have done so too.

"Free" public transport was included in the registration fees, which amounted to hundreds of dollars, depending on which country you came from. Sometimes you have to spend money to make money, and I guess the government has offered free public transport in exchange for tourist dollars (and more).

Anyway, money isn't everything - hopefully WYD08 has brought to Sydney and Australia some things that money can't buy - true spiritual revival (not just a vibe) and a greater awareness of God who is alive!

I still don't know why there is so much whinging going on about the Pilgrims and their spending habits. Even the Olympics were pretty average for Cabbies [true!], so to expect WYD to be a financial bonanza was misguided. Anyhow, the event was never about how much money it brings in, that is the Mardi Gras excuse.
I am pleased everyone had a great week, for whatever reason.
To my fellow Cabbies, who are hurting just like me, realise it is winter, it was school holidays and we are talking about a world recession coming on. If the negative statements I read in the world financial pages will ring true, get used to the level of work we see right now, there is 2 years of struggle coming up. I hope I am wrong. Praise the Taxi God, and you'll be right.

Pilgrimage is a tradition about walking.

None of our visitors, even Benedict XVI, are good enough to walk across the water to get here.

I enjoyed driving the cab during the past week. The best thing was seeing people in town from parts of the world who don't usually come to Sydney, like Papua New Guinea (my earliest memories are from there) and Sth America etc.

But it was a charity job, really. There was no money in it for me.

I blogged about it too, here -
http://web.me.com/godotcab/Site/Woblog/Entries/2008/7/22_Walls_8_Holy_Crimes.html

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